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and choose to favor one religion over another. >> a cases rely on articles 9 and 14 of the convention of human rights to protect rights of the freedom of thought, conscience, and religion. the other three appeals were rejected. and nurse was told that her hospital employers were within their rights to rule that her crucifix necklace was a health and safety risk. >> to be suddenly put in a position between regret had to choose between a professional love with a passion or my faith, i chose my faith. i don't feel that any christian or anyone with any strong religious views should be put in that position. >> in today's largely secular europe, it seems that legislation and religious freedoms are increasingly acting at loggerheads to each other. these four british cases were underscored by a feeling among campaigners that christianity is not being afforded the same degree of protection as afforded to other religions. the senior church of england cleric has urged more tolerant of christian traditions, but secular campaigners have welcomed these rulings. >> it is one thing to have a belief a
founded the church in 1954 and while the religion has been a positive, transformative experience for some, it has long been shadowed by allegations that people have been emotionally and sometimes even physically abused. >> i don't think anybody would join scientology in order to be abusiv abusive. they go into scientology because they want help. but at a deeper level, you go further and further into the church, the distortions become more and more apparent. and it's at those levels that i think scientology has lost its way. >> why do you think the church is so controversial? >> it has a history of being very vindictive and litigious. and it has a history of infiltrating the government and spying on people. and so it has created an atmosphere of fear that surrounds it. >> in the 1970s, the church launched a massive espionage effort called operation snow white because the church believed the government was collecting information damaging to the church. fall ollowing an five raid, 11 scientologies, including hubbard's wife, were convicted of entering numerous agencies and stealing documents.
. martin luther king jr. andrew seattle who is with the freedom from religion foundation. mr. stittle, abraham lincoln and dr. king too two amazing american icons you want to take their bibles and remove them from the ceremony. >> i much prefer dr. king's writing on the letter from the birmingham jail where he talks about the white church standing on the sideline mouthing trivialalities and pyes irrelevancy while he does the work of the civil rights movement. >> bill: you must know that dr. king invoked god in almost every speech that he made. >> article 2 section one of the constitution which lays out the oath does not say anything about the word so help me god. it says i will preserve to the best of my ability, preserve, defend and protect the states period. it's kind of ironic that the president is going to amend that in the middle of it. >> bill: do you know why george washington wanted the words god so help me god in? do you know why? >> george washington did not say so help me god. the first recorded instance is 1801. >> bill: if you look at his inaugural address it's peppered w
's point. tort reform is necessary and comes not from religion. but reforming the ethics of the legal profession. lawyers should not bring fort executes that have no standing under the law. until we get the professor to not chase dollars. we have a problem. the issue is not people and their particular issues. >> okay. but tracey, that is no way. you are putting the wolf in charge of the heen house. you have to do something. >> i want to hear from someone who has three kid and i don't think she is afraid of them. >> they are scaring on certain days. but you don't enter into a profession wh you are scared of children. no one is scared of children. every now and then give them a cookie and they smile. you need to put a limit that the injured party can receive and that will stop the ambulance chasers f. there is no pot of the gold there is nothing to chase. >> what do on you make about the point of the attorneys and people coming up with random phobia. >> i know it sounds crazy but i agree with christian. i think he is right. it does start with that and i will extend it further. not only
status and value is money, by which we purchase self-esteem. the net result is the message of religion is not being heard. we are seeing men feeling disenfranchised, angry, broken and rage-filled. they retaliate against a society that they feel demeans them and belittles them. >> that's the rage part. >> absolutely. >> father, let me go to you on this. if the family is broken as so many are, if there's no father, then how does the young man -- i'm going to use the young man in this case, it could be a young woman, but it seems to be coming from men, how does he learn character or good deeds? how does he learn the difference between right and wrong and responsibility? >> well, if he doesn't have the father he's going to get it through devious channels. through the media. and we know what that feeds them. but we're talking about the breakdown of african-american families this is endemic, pandemic. you have got 53% out of wedlock births along latinos and almost 30% now amongst white families. so when we look at the situation in newtown, this was a suburb suburban -- this is not a ghetto e
is not be jihadist religion as opposed to that going on in northern mali. the french, they have done quite well. i think they have retaken timbuktu and some other northern cities. the next step is to go into the sierra, and that can only be done with help of countries like algeria, which really have the experience in desert warfare. united states can help. we can bring our experience from our fighting in afghanistan and iraq and provide -- the african soldiers are going to fight this battle with trading. we can provide training and logistics, and we definitely have interest in doing this, because this aqim, the body is now in mali. it has links, arms, into nigeria and libya, including the one you possibly killed our ambassador and colleagues. the squabbles of all of the areas that are ill got burned or undergoverned around the region, -- that are ill governed or ungoverned. >> good to talk to you. thank you very much. the u.n. is warning of a growing crisis in neighboring mali. there was a focus of heavy fighting. >> fleeing the violence that is engulfing much of their country, these people are fr
with any of this stuff on the set. religion -- i think there was one episode about it, but it wasn't like a water cooler topic. >> when he went off, he said he regretted it and he wished he didn't. when he did, did you try to reach out to him? >> no, because i knew when i did it, i had people coming at me, i knew i probably wouldn't get through and i didn't want to be the guy that was like, hey, man, now that that happened, i'm calling. and he would be like, why didn't you call before that? you know what i'm saying? he's a terrific kid. this feels temporary, not like a jonestown meltdown. >> speaking of meltdowns, lindsay lohan who you gave $100,000 to. >>> back now with charlie sheen. tell me, why did you give lindsay lohan $100,000? >> good question. i thought i was going to get it back. no. >> did you get it back? >> no, it wasn't about that. they offered me a ton of dough for one day's work. i was flattered. they said, we want to hire lindsay to make it more epic, but we want to give her half of what we gave you. and they took it back from me and they shorted her $100,000 on what i th
to recognize scientology as a religion and was demanding it pay $1 billion in back taxes. after a bitter legal battle, the irs relented and granted tax exempt status. >> there will be no billion-dollar tax bill which we can't pay. there will be no more discrimination. >> i think scientology has a lot to account for because it's protected as a religion under the first amendment. it's able to get away with a lot of things. >> reporter: author lawrence wright has written a new book out today called "going clear, scientology, hollywood and the prison of belief." wright says the victory over the irs allowed scientology to build capital and power, power, he says, the church has exploited. >> what they're doing is abusing their own members, shaking them down for money, wreaking vengeance on people that disagree with them, punishing its critics and physically abusing people and holding them against their will inside the highest levels of the church. >> reporter: the church will say complaints like this come from malcontents and that they have no credibility. do they seem credible to you? >> well, ther
, he claimed to be agnostic. wow, we never really dealt with any of this stuff on the set. religion -- i think there was one episode about it, but it wasn't like a water cooler topic. >> when he went off, he said he regretted it and he wished he didn't. had he did, did you try to reach out to him? >> no, because i knew when i did it, i had people coming at me, i knew i probably wouldn't get through and i didn't want to be the guy that was like, hey, man, now that that happened, i'm calling. and he would be like, why didn't you call before that? you know what i'm saying? he's a terrific kid. this feels temporary, not like a jonestown melttown. >> speaking of meltdowns, lindsay lohan who you gave $100,000 to. c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in
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that religion. >> andrea: they claim it's peaceful. >> bob: very peaceful. >> kimberly: they should have respect for the other face. if they want us to respect them, respect the christian faith as well. >> dana: at the state department men you issue a travel warning to tell americans not to go, do you forfeit as american citizen your protection when you, if you disregard that? >> bob: no. you wouldn't. but we don't have diplomatic relations with him. big trouble. >> kimberly: big problem. pray for him and his family. >> bob: one more thing is up next. ♪ ♪ t rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's
state. libertine social policies that a client of religion and incredible, incredible selfishness. that's what's on display here in america. if traditional people don't stay in -- stand up we will become sweden. reaction from our barack and hard place duo here now monica crowley and alan colmes. who punched you? >> it was a very ugly christmas dinner at the crowley household this year. bam, right in the kisser. >> what really happened? >> i'm auditioning for the real housewives of beverly hills. that's what's going on. >> what really happened to you? >> i looked like cass tell yesterday. >> bill: you snell. were you drunk. >> no. i fell. >> bill: for no reason? >> i was thinking of what i'm going to say next on the factor and boom. >> bill: you look like mickey rosenbacher. you would say you are a traditional conservative. >> i think so. >> bill: i'm surprised that there are in america very few traditional leaders, would you agree with that? nobody to rally around. it's a scattered tradition. correct? >> there are some obviously in the churches. some trying to lead a traditional cultura
is the redneck americans clinging to their guns and religion. 99% of the gun violence is in the city. >> bob: they have three strikes you're out. >> greg: i'm talking about a federal law for handgun crime. why isn't omar abdel-rahman rahg about the 500 people that died in chicago. >> eric: he is inses tent to use the newtown massacre as the crisis that is not to be wasted. >> bob: not a bad idea either. the kids and you are talking actually about the national rifle -- freddie how many dead kids in philadelphia? >> kimberly: now you want to ban handguns? you're liberal kama sutro. so many positions -- >> eric: on that note, what are the odds the media does their job in the next four years and reports the truth about the obama administration? we'll place our wagers next. ♪ ♪ [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. lea
clinging to their guns and religion. 99% of the gun violence is in the city. >> bob: they have three strikes you're out. >> greg: i'm talking about a federal law for handgun crime. why isn't omar abdel-rahman rahg about the 500 people that died in chicago. >> eric: he is inses tent to use the newtown massacre as the crisis that is not to be wasted. >> bob: not a bad idea either. the kids and you are talking actually about the national rifle -- freddie how many dead kids in philadelphia? >> kimberly: now you want to ban handguns? you're liberal kama sutro. so many positions -- >> eric: on that note, what are the odds the media does their job in the next four years and reports the truth about the obama administration? we'll place our wagers next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: so "usa today," the nation's official place mat for free continental breakfas breakfast, has not one, but two articles on how president obama should cope with the future scandals. the headline, similar. if you are falling over yourself to help the president to greatness, you can be forgiven for repetition. what are hea
. why is it important to keep religion in the inauguration? father jonathan weighs in next. first, let's weigh in with martha mccallum. >> good morning to everybody on this inauguration sunday as the president prepares for day one of ceremony. new fox polls show his approval ratings compared to that of the nra. interesting numbers. we will show you those. and president clinton with a warning to democrats where guns are concerned. america's newsroom on a special sunday. we'll see you soon! even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. [ sigh of relief ] sometimes life can be well, a little uncomfortable. but when it's hard or hurts to go to the bathroom, there's dulcolax stool softener. dulcolax stool softener doesn't make you go, it just makes it easier to go. dulcolax stool softener. make yourself comfortable. ♪ >>> time for quick headlines. a man accused of leading a family drug ring in the u.s. caught
and a woman who hated religion. >> unlike brooklyn, this place is going to be full of whites. this place is literally going to be dollywood. >> that's why i made that joke. >> this place is going to make dollywood look like howard university. this is going to be the whitest place in america. >> john: big albino troupe over there. >> it sounds like an episode of the walking dead. they're going to wait for the zombies to come. they will come. >> so white, swedish people will go there and go oh, they're in the neighborhood. >> the zombies might be the atf. >> john: give me a rule for your perfect society? >> i quite enjoy fish. not in reality. i'm more of a whaling -- i'm going extra white there. >> john: if you had your own culty commune, what would it be? >> first of all restaurants i want good restaurants. obviously they will be all over the place in glenn beck's lalapalooza land. i'm happy glenn beck is getting into the restaurant business because he's beginning to look exactly like guy fieri on diners dive-ins and dives. in my perfect america, it would take place in glenn beck's, in hi
an establishment of religion, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. >> neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist within the united states. >> the validity of the public debt of the united states authorized by law shall not be questioned. >> the right of citizens of the united states to vote shall not be denied on account of race, color or previous condition of servitude. >> the right of the citizens of the united states to vote shall not be denied on account of sex. >> the 18th article of the amendment to the constitution of the amendment is hereby repealed. >> ah, the constitution from those opening lines we the people to the 21st amendment, wahoo! glorious document. i think i heard a clap or two in there about the debt and the nation paying bills and closer and closer to running out of cash to do it. remember, raising the debt ceiling isn't additional spending but allows the government to pay the bills it's already racked up on money it's already spent. today, fitch ratings which sets credit ratings for countries around the world warned the u.s. co
. it has park ad great debate here in the u.k. about the role of religion in public life. now, the european court today in strasbourg, france, ruled that nadia's implyers, british airways, policy interfered with her right to practice her religion. she was quote jubilant and very pleased that quote, christian rights had been vindicated. british airways sent her home without pay in 2006 when she refused to remove her cross or put it under her uniform. she lost her case in a british employment tribunal, it ruled it is not the religious duty of christians to wear a cross. but ba ultimately changed the dress code rules and reinstated eweida. she feels they did it under pressure and not a change of heart. her victory does again sit her for -- compensate her for lost pay is a symbolic one. >> i have colleagues who wear hijab and muslim colleagues that don't wear hijab. they have a choice to wear it or don't wear it. everybody has the right and faith and makeup to express their faith in their way. why should i be discriminated against on par with other colleagues? >> reporter: british prime ministe
member paul hagut says he thinks the religion is a cult. the church dismisses him as the hypocrite of hollywood. we'll speak with him and talk to the author of a new book that explores the link between scientology and hollywood. >>> we want to get to breaking news. nbc's nichelle cokosinkski liven london. >> reporter: this has been changing by the moment. first, the report that a number of hostages has escaped. now that algerians have raided the facility and a number of have been killed, including hostages. 41 people held, among them americans, british, norwegians, and they called this retribution for french intervention in neighboring mali against militant there. at this hour scattered reports out of the algerian desert. that large bp gas facility, that a standoff is going on. algerian army has militants and dozens of international hostages surrounded. among them, americans. >> in order to protect their safety, i'm not going to get into numbers, i'm not going to get into names, not going to get into any further details as we continue to work on this issue with the algerian authori
, paul haggis, says he thinks the religion is a cult. the church says haggis has not been an active member in years and dismisses him as "the hypocrite of hollywood." we will hear from paul haggis and talk to the author of a new book that explores the ties between scientology and hollywood. but we are going to begin with breaking news what could be dramatic developments in that hostage situation involving americans in algeria. nbc's michelle kosinski has the latest for us in london. michelle, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, savannah. this is changing by the minute. the latest from the associated press, quoting an algerian official, is that at least 20 of these hostages have now been able to escape, including americans. the al qaeda-linked militant group that has claimed responsibility for this say they have been holding 41 hostages, among them, we know americans, british, norwegians, japanese and they claim that this is retaliation for french intervention in neighboring mali against islamic militants there. at this hour, scattered reports out of the algerian desert that this l
: nowhere is that sense of betrayal felt more deeply than in france where cycling verges on a religion and armstrong committed his sins. despite his youthful appearance alexander roous has been covering cycle for years. >> he lied he cheated. doesn't that tear the heart out of france? >> yes, yes, of course. there's just a blank from '99 to 2005, that's a scar that will stay on the history of the tour. >> forever. >> forever. >> reporter: fellow athletes say armstrong has no place among him. >> it's disgrace for the sport to have an athlete like this. he cheated the sport, he cheat phd people around the world. >> reporter: speaking ahead of the interview, current tour de france champions bradley manning says armstrong critics may have finally got their man, but it's time to move on. >> it will be a great day for a lot of people and a quite sad day for the sport in some ways. i think it's been a sad couple of months for the sport. >> reporter: writing off those races is exactly what tour officials here want to do. they're treating his wins as if they didn't exist. o
is that sense of betrayal felt more deeply than in france where cycling verges on a religion and armstrong committed his sins. despite his youthful appearance alexander rouse has been covering it for years. >> reporter: he lied. he cheated. doesn't that tear the heart out of france? >> yes, yes, of course. i mean he did for seven years. that's a blank from 1999 to 2005. that's snag will stay on the history of the tour de france. >> reporter: forever. >> forever. >> reporter: fellow teammates say he has no place among them. >> he cheated the sport. >> reporter: speaking ahead of the interview, current champion bradley wigan said arm strong's critics finally got their man but it's time to move on. >> it will be great day for a lot of people and a sad day for the sport in some ways. i think it's been a sad couple of months for this sport. >> reporter: now, writing off those races is exactly what your officials here want to do. they're treating his wins as if they didn't exist, and one french commentator said if lance armstrong is looking for sympathy, he won't find any here. >> all right. cha
: senator rubio is right. in an unguarded moment when he was senator obama heat mock religion and people who claimed done for security. that is an indication of his feelings about them. when it comes to a tradition the city of chicago which was so anti second amendment the supreme court of the united states, a two majority opinions to tell chicago you can't stop people from purchasing and keeping arms in their home. the president comes from that tradition and senator rubio is correct. charles: let's check the markets. last time we checked the dow was up 32 points and starting to gain fraction of 53 points right now. let's go to the stock exchange. ebay had a good number. how are those shares faring? nicole: ebay it is that are new multi-year high up about 3% at $54.52. they give a forecast for 2014 in line with analyst expectations but the latest quarter which included the holiday shopping season did very well for a couple reasons. they worked on customer service and such including free shipping, making returns easier. those are the factors that have been cited. the other thing we should not
and their religion, and when he made that statement, i think that was really a wakeup call for a lot of people. >> we have behind you semiautomatic rifles, and there are people who stricter gun regulation in the united states. why do you need a semiautomatic rifle if you're a firearm supporter. how would you react to them? >> semiautomatic rifles, for example, the ar-15, is really part of our culture. anybody that grew up, did military service in the 70s, was trained on an m-16, and it's kind of consistent with what we do with appreciating using similar-type weapons that we were trained on in the military, but this is a civilian legal version of the same thing. >> quickly, supporters of the second amendment believe in their need and right to protect the citizenry against aty rankle government, is that accurate? >> it is. a lot of that is lost in translation where people don't realize that the second amendment, one of the provisions of the second amendment is to protect ourselves from a government that could be a tyrannical government. >> thank you for joining us very much on fox business. now, you se
is looking at all options right now with respect to what type of religions they choose. the -- what type of regulations they choose. i think the polling you showed bears it out. my reporting suggests it's probably the most likely one to be dropped ultimately in the end but they'll probably make some sort of push at the beginning. the key thing is they want to do universal background checks and thinks it's common sensoe refor any who buys a gun should be cleared and generally nra members are in approval of that and don't want nut bags to get guns. and make it's easier for law enforcement officials to track down illegal possession of guns and right now there's not a law to prevent gun trafficking. they want it on the books. they want common sense stuff and reach a little beyond that and let the crazies basically argue it's not smart and then the politics plays out the way they wan want. >> joe, you tweet and i re-tweeted the cover of "the daily news" and it's getting a good conversation. let's talk about the ni "huffington post" series, the road forward. president obama's second term chall
in much of the liberal wings of the political party towards organized religion. i think it's intolerance of the left twashd people of good faith on the right and that worries me. i wish colin powell had talked about that as well. i wish colin powell had talked about the implications of chunk hagel talking about the jewish lobby that intimidates people. he said, make the jews pay. colin powell could have talked about that and whether that was a dark strain or is his focus only on when republicans act wrong? chuck hagel did, too, in these circumstances. it's a topic worth discussing but needs to be discussed in every direction, not just one. tolerance needs to be taught and practiced by all. >> i think that's -- you know, i've got to say that's the sort of thinking by republicans that, seriously, gets in the way. as opposed to attacking, you know, clearly there's issues with the republican party and minorities in this country. >> it's a one-way street. >> a false equivalence about democrats and evangelicals that makes me scratch my head. taking in what colin powell has to say, look at the
is the state religion practiced by 99% of the population in algeria. it borders two countries in turmoil, libya and mali. as you can see on this map. so al algeria received almost $3 million in american aid in 2012. bill: what about these americans now? what about their fate and what about the future? in a moment hear new warnings the raid in algeria might be just the beginning. national security analyst kt mcfarland that america's light footprint on terror could mean many more deadly attacks like the one we saw at our consulate in libya. she is here next hour along with general jack keane. we'll discuss all of that with two outstanding guests coming up. martha: onto this story now because reaction is pouring in today to lance armstrong's explosive interview with oprah winfrey he finally admitted after years of denials and of blaming others and calling others liars that he did indeed use performance-enhancing drugs throughout his career and they were quote, just part of the job. casey stiegel is live outside livestrong headquarters in, texas this morning. casey, he said some pretty powerful stu
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. clearly they must get something out of this religion and of this faith. what do you think they are getting out of scientology? >> let's start with millions of members which the church says that they have. according to census figures, 25,000 people in the u.s. call themselves scientologists. that's half the number of rastafarians. in the entire world there may be 30,000. this figure, millions of scientologists, is another one of those unsupported statements by the church that they're constantly putting out with no evidence about it at all. >> there's been a lot of reaction to your book, as you know. >> yes. >> the church has dismissed it. they have questioned your credibility, calling your sources liars. and both the canadian and the british versions of your book at the last minute are now not being published. the church says the reason is because it's false. and that it's defamatoriy. how do you respond? >> i know the church came here and talked to your executives. and you asked them to be on camera. where are they? did you ask david miskavich to come on and defend the allegations against
but to invent your own religion you're own spirituality. ♪ you got to help me to take a stand ♪ >> if i say "fire and rain," what's the first thought you have? >> i remember where i was when i wrote the tune. >> where were you? >> whether it first occurred to me. i was in a basement flat in london in the west end. ♪ oh i seen fire and i seen rain ♪ >> and the song just came to me. and then -- >> just came to me? >> uh-huh. i mean you know, songs were -- that was happening frequently to me at that point. and -- >> why was that at that point this was happening to you? >> well, i had a lot of empty time. i had a lot of energy. i had a lot of yearning a lot of unsolved senses of -- i very much wanted to express myself and define myself. >> was that the most fertile period for you ever? >> yeah, yeah it was. i was really busting at the seams to express myself. ♪ i'm going to carolina in my mind ♪ >> where did that song come from? >> i was homesick. i was in london and i was -- i was just thinking about north carolina. i was so -- >> does it just flow once you got on to
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